ID help for maybe Palloptera & maybe hovefly

The first fly is a stratiomyid - try Odontomyia ornata. You're very lucky to have a garden with flies like this in it. The second looks to me like a female of the common dung fly Scathophaga stercoraria. However, unlike you I don't do identification from photgraphs, so please don't take these suggestions as determinations.

Hi Howard,

Thank you so much, very restrained of you to be patient with someone who can't identify a fly with the word 'common' in its name.

Thank you also for your comment on the garden. It feels like a small but incredibly welcome vindication of 10 years of trying to negotiate a path between nettle monoculture and overmanagement, whilst also avoiding divorce, my husband would defintely rather have an acre of daisy-sprinkled lawn than a wet wilderness which occasionally stings or claws him (just the plants). When I look up your ID 'suggestions' I'll be particulalry interested in finding out about the relevant life-histories, I'm slowly building a picture of the pairings of certain insects with certain plants, and it's very rewarding to find what specific species I'm supporting by sparing or encouraging specific plants or habitats.

Found a great photo-based ID pdf on the soldierflies and allies recording scheme site, and of course, ID of ornate brigadier seems spot on, so I went ahead and submitted to irecord (with a note that I had had ID help on the forum). Also realised that it is quite an exciting fly to have found... so needed to share my excitement about today, when I was out photographing beside the same pond and so far as I can tell, I photographed a female of the same species, sitting on floating vegetation on the pond.

Thank you again so much for your help!